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Joan Jett is a professional singer, composer, songwriter, and occasional actress. Jett is known for the frontwomen of her band ‘Joan Jett & the Blackhearts.’ She gets the success from the most famous songs ‘Cherry Bomb,’ and from the song ‘I Love Rock n Roll’ which was the top #1 rank in the Billboard hot 100 songs in the year 1982. Joan Jett and Carmen Electra were rumored to be dating in May 2006. Tara Leigh Patrick (born April 20, 1972), better known by her stage name Carmen Electra, is an American glamour model, actress, television personality, singer, and dancer. 2007 - 2007Joan Jett and Carmen Electra were rumored to be seeing each other after they were spotted getting close to each other while out together. In an interview later Joan never denied it, but ... Joan Marie Jett (née Larkin, September 22, 1958) is an American rock singer, songwriter, composer, musician, record producer and occasional actress. orn Jett is best known for her work as the frontwoman of her band Joan Jett & the Blackhearts, and for earlier founding and performing with the Runaways, which recorded and released the hit song 'Cherry Bomb'. More about the Joan Jett and Jenna Jameson dating / relationship. More about the Joan Jett and Billy Idol dating / relationship. More about the Joan Jett and Carmen Electra dating / relationship. More about the Joan Jett and Dee Dee Ramone dating / relationship. More about the Joan Jett and Stephanie Adams dating / relationship. See all Joan Jett's marriages, divorces, hookups, break ups, affairs, and dating relationships plus celebrity photos, latest Joan Jett news, gossip, and biography. Joan Jett is currently single. She has been in one celebrity relationship.She has never been married. Who is Joan Jett dating? Joan Jett is currently single, according to our records.. The American Rock Singer was born in Wynnewood, PA on September 22, 1958. She rose to fame as the lead singer of The Blackhearts and became considered the Queen of Rock ‘n’ Roll for hits such as “I Love Rock ‘N’ Roll.”
Erik Jäger (9/26/2020) 15 min “Metal Ride.”
2020.10.05 01:40 MalllkaVErik Jäger (9/26/2020) 15 min “Metal Ride.”
Erik Jäger (9/26/2020) 15 min “Metal Ride.” Rammstein, Volbeat, Motörhead, Danzig, The Smashing Pumkins. In German-must have multiple languages turned on. He admits this is not his genre, but is fun every once in a while. Second time I have heard this….makes me think someone is telling them to do these rides. Makes my heart smile. If you have found good rides with hard rock/metal songs, please post below. I will do the ride and add it to the list or the “honorable mention” list. Since our music is infrequent, I am actively clicking “more instructor” and playing my own CDs on my little boombox (only way to do a death metal ride 😊. Praying Peleton will get metal in a regular cycle…..oh please. Finally, I am officially adopting Kendall Toole as my Peloton Metal Daughter. She makes a papa proud!! But don't tell her-don't want to creep her out. Christine D’Ercole Christine D’Ercole (8/8/2020) 15 minute “Metal Ride.” Disturbed, Korn, Metallica, Danzig. Christine admitted this music isn’t from her wheel house and she got advice on her list. Thank you Christine for coming over to our side! Kendall Toole Kendall Toole (8/17/2020) 30 min Metal ride: Korn, Marilyn Manson, Godsmack, Disturbed, Deftones, Sepultura, Judas Priest, Metallica, Danzig Kendal Toole (7/26/2020) 45 min Rock ride: Joan Jett & the Black Hearts, Linkin Park, Rage Against the Machine, The White Stripes, Warrant, Drowning Pool, Papa Roach, Cake, Red Hot Chili Peppers, The Offspring, Dropkick Murphys, Metallica, GunsN’Roses, Crazy Town, Wolfmother, Puddle of Mudd Kendall Toole (6/10/2020) 30 min Metal ride: White Zombie, Disturbed, Danzig, Five Finger Death Punch, Rage Against the Machine, Slayer, Breaking Benjamin, Coheed and Cambria, Lacuna Coil Kendall Toole (Encore 4/7/20) 30 min metal ride: OMG we have arrived. Pantera, Lamb of God, Slip Knot, Slayer!!! It is the best ride to date. I did the ride as it aired and 1,900+ people rode in in it. More Kendall more! Kendall Toole (3/14/2020): Rammstein, ACDC, Danzig, GnR Kendall Toole (2/4/2020) 45 min Climb: Marylin Manson, Korn, Coheed and Cambria, Motorhead. Kendall Toole (1/7/2020) 15 min metal ride -amazing music. Just do it and do it again. Olivia Amato Olivia Amoto (7/7/20) 20 min Metal Ride: Disturbed, Megadeth, Slipnot, Metallica, Korn, Bring me the Horizon Olivia Amato (1/30/20)- Guns N’ Roses ride. Sending her love. Please do more of this. Honorable Mention Emma Lovewell Emma Lovewell (7/27/2020) 30 min 90s Rock ride: The Smashing Pumpkins, blink-182, Metallica, Edwyn Collins, The Offspring, 311, Pearl Jam, The Smashing Pumpkins, Counting Crows Emma Lovewell (6/27/2020) 30 min 90s Rock ride: Red Hot Chili Peppers, Green Day, Metallica, Rage Against the Machine, blink-182, Pearl Jam, Counting Crows, GunsN’Roses, Soundgarden Emma Lovewell (2/27/2020) 30 min Rock ride: Modest Mouse, The Strokes, Cage the Elephant, Yellowcard, Jimmy Eat World, The Black Keys, Weezer, The White Stripes, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Albert Hammond, Jr. Irene Schultz (2/25/20) In German-must have multiple languages turned on. Rammstein and Twisted Sister in ride. Erik Jäger (6/10/20) 30 min Rock Ride- In German-must have multiple languages turned on. The Pretty Reckless, All Time Low, Nickelback x 2, Good Charlotte, The Black Keys, Queen x 2, Freddie Mercury, Kaleo Jen King Music Fest Ride (8/3/19) If you came of age 90s-2000s, this may be for you. Looked more like Warp Tour bands to me…..not my 80s to modern day metal type bands. Dennis Morton Dennis Morton (1/14/19) 45 min Rock ride: Trapt, Jimi Hendrix, A Perfect Circle, System of a Down, Soundgarden, Fall Out Boy, STP, Linkin Park, Muse, Deftones, Rage Against the Machine, Puddle of Mudd Dennis Morton (8/6/2017) 45 min Rock ride: No play list available, description says “mainstays of rock and roll, classic rock, and some-off-the-beaten-path extras.” Matt Wilpers (1/5/2020) 30 min Rock ride: 3 Doors Down, Trapt, Nickleback, Disturbed, Puddle of Mudd, Chevelle, Korn, The Red Jumpsuit Apparatus, Staind Professor70 (rider name)
2020.09.05 03:02 MPZ1968I Made A Deal With An Old Man In A Food Court Bathroom (Pt. 9)
When I got home, I sat in my car for about 20 minutes just thinking about this whole papers and dreamscape thing. I decided that I wanted some answers. So, I got out of my car, went into the house, found the phonebook, looked up the number to B & B music, and called it. The phone rang two or three times, then Ricky‘s dad picked up. “Hello!!! Thank you for calling B and B music. How may I help you?, he said. “Hey, Mr. Bellington, this is Mikey Z, I was just in there talking to your son Ricky.”, I said. “Hello, Son!!! Is everything ok?”, he asked. “Yes sir!!! Everything’s fine, I was just wondering if I could talk to Ricky again please.”, I said. “Sure!!!”, he responded, “Let me get him for you ... but please, don’t tie up the phone line too long.”, he answered. “I won’t Sir”, I replied. “Richard!!!”, he yelled again. “Richard!!! Pick up the phone. It’s for you.” “Okay Pop!!!”, I heard Ricky say in the background. “Hello!!! Okay Pop I got it!!!”, Ricky said loudly. I heard the click of the other phone hanging up. At that time, I said sternly, “Ricky, it’s Mikey Z... We need to talk... I need answers and I need them now. “Calm down Man!!!”, Ricky said. “No!!! This has been bugging me for three days now.”, I told him. “What has, Man??”, he asked. “I don’t wanna talk about it over the phone, what time do you get off??”, I asked. Five o’clock Was his reply. “Okay, meet me at Rocket-ship Park at 5:30, and you better have some answers or I’m quitting the band.”, I demanded. “No!!! No!!! Don’t do that Man!!! I’ll tell you everything I know. But there’s only one problem. I don’t have a car, can you pick me up at the Store.”, he asked. “Yeah, Man. Why not?”, I answered slightly agitated, “I’ll see you at five.” “Cool Man!!! Thanks!!!”, he said and then hung up the phone. I hung up my phone and decided to have some coffee to calm myself down. I sat at the kitchen table, drinking coffee for the next two hours. I drank a whole pot. I had to piss so bad, my eyes were floating. I went to the bathroom and handled my business. I came back out, realizing it was about 4 45 and I had to get to the store to pick up Ricky. I ran upstairs to my bedroom... and got the papers out of my desk drawer. I put them in my front right pocket. Since I still had my keys and my wallet in their respective pockets, I headed out to my car, started her up and drove to the store. I got there a little after five. Ricky was just coming out of the store. “Hey Man!!!”, he said, “Thanks for picking me up.” “No problem!!”, I said, “Get in!!” He opened the passenger side door and got in. “Damn, Dude!!! This car is bitchen!!!”, he said. “Thanks, I like it”, I replied. We drove for about 20 minutes, until we reach the park. Now, Rocket-ship Park was named for the huge rocket ship slide that sits in the middle of the park. There are various swings and climbing structures for kids to play on, as well as a picnic area, a volleyball net, a nature trail, and an exercise course. It’s a great place to take your kids during the daytime. I used to take my niece and nephew there all the time. But, at night, it’s a totally different story. That’s when all the drug addicts and drug dealers take over. But you don’t really care about that. Anyway, we arrived at the park, got out of the car and sat at the picnic area. Ricky lit a smoke, And that’s when I noticed the snake tattoo on his right bicep. I thought nothing of it and began speaking. “I don’t mean to sound harsh Dude, but some really strange shit is happening lately!!!, I started. “I know, right, he said. “You don’t understand Man!!!”, I continued, “When I met all four of you at the church, you gave me two pieces of paper... i reached into my right front pocket, pulling out the papers. THESE papers, Ricky!!!” I shook them furiously in his face and then slammed them down hard on the picnic table. “Whoa!!! Easy Dude!!! You’re freaking me out!!!”, he said nervously. “Now!!!”, I said sternly, “If the church, the forest, and all that shit was fake, an illusion, some fucked up shit created by that little demon fucker, then how did I bring these papers out of it and back into the real world. “Seriously Dude!!!, That’s what you’re so psycho about???”, he asked, “It’s simple Man!!! I had those papers in my pocket when I died, therefore they came with me into the dreamscape. They’re from the real world. That’s how you could bring them out.”, he said sighing a sigh of relief. “Why did you have a song list and an address in your pocket?, I asked. “That might be a song list to you, but to me, it’s a set list of the songs we were gonna play at our first gig next week. I didn’t mean to give you the address, that’s the address to the club we’re playing at, I’m gonna need that back.”, he said. I gave Ricky back the address. I already memorized it... 2 15 Stadium Street. That’s easy enough to remember. “Then what’s the address to the warehouse we’re practicing at?, I asked. “I don’t know Dude!!!, but if you pick me up tomorrow, I’ll show you how to get there.”, he said. “Alright!!!”, I replied. “Cool”, he said, “Do you have any more questions Dude?? “No!!! that’s about it.”, I said. “Cool, let’s go play on the playground.”, he said, as he got up and motioned for me to come along. I figured, “Why not?? There’s nobody here.” Ricky and I spent the next half hour sliding down the slides and playing on the swings, even doing a few exercise’s on the exercise course. That was, until Park Security kicked us out. Apparently you had to be under 16 to play there. Now, I don’t care who you are, male or female, adult or child, the thought of sliding down a 30 foot high slide gets your heart racing. Anyway, I drove Ricky home. Well, not exactly to his house. He told me to let him off on the corner and he’d walk the rest of the way, which I found kind of odd. But I said, “Okay!!!”, and dropped him off then went back to my house. That night and the next two days and nights were rather uneventful. Then Friday came. You remember what happens on Friday, Right??? That’s right!!!, My big date with Susan. I woke up that morning, totally excited. I couldn’t sit still, anticipating the nights events. You see, I had a massive crush on Susan ever since Kindergarten, when I accidentally dropped my cookie on the floor during Snack Time. She offered to share her cookie with me. That was the best tasting cookie I ever ate. Come on, Mike, get your head out of the gutter and tell the story. Ok!!! Anyway, I was so amped up that morning that I helped my mom, who is off that day, do some chores around the house. I did dishes, swept and mop the floors, did laundry, vacuumed the carpets, all kinds of stuff. 5:30 came, I decided it was time to get a shower and get dressed for my date. So, I got a nice hot shower, put on some cologne, POLO to be exact, put on some deodorant, wrapped in a towel, and went to my room to get dressed. Now, the girl of my dreams is finally going out with me, after all these years, so, I wanted to impress her... I went to my closet and way in the back, on the left, were a couple of old dress pants, Different colored button up shirts and a couple ties that I had before I got all Heavy Metal ish. I got dressed in a pair of black dress pants, an olive green shirt, with a black tie with a picture of Scooby Doo on it. Susan always liked Scooby Doo. So, I figured that might get me some brownie points. I didn’t have any dress shoes or black socks, so, I snuck into my dad’s room and “borrowed”, a pair of his socks and wore my black Nikes. I went to the bathroom mirror to take a look at myself, I looked like a Corporate Suit Monkey. But Damn, Did I look good!!! “This will surely impress her.”, I thought. It was about 6:15 at that point, so, I went downstairs to have a cup of coffee. If you haven’t figured it out, I drink coffee like a fish drinks water. Anyway, my mom took one look at me and said, “Zoinks!!!”, obviously referring to my Scooby Doo tie, then asked jokingly, if I was her son, and what did I do with her real son. “Very funny Mom!!!”, I said. “Seriously!!!”, she replied, “Why are you all dressed up. “I got a date tonight Mom!!!, I said proudly. “You... got a date??? With who???”, she asked. “With Susan Mom!!!”, I replied. “Susan from down the street, the girl you’ve been drooling over for years.”, she asked questionably. “Yes, Mom!!!”, I replied. “Wow!!! Well, good luck son. I hope you have a good night. “So do I Mom!!!”, I replied. I poured a cup of coffee, added cream and sugar, and sat at the table talking to my mom. When I finished my coffee. I looked at the clock, it was 6:45. I figured I’d leave then, so I could stop at Barnaby’s , the local grocery store, and get a nice bouquet of roses for Susan. That place has a really bad vibe. So I just go in, get what I want and get the hell out of there as fast as I can. Dad was just getting home as I was leaving. Anyway, I got the roses, got back in my car, and headed over to Susan‘s house. I arrived a little bit early. So, I sat in my car, heart beating a mile a minute, and sweating from nervousness, I’m was sure glad I put on deodorant. Anyway, the time finally came. I got out of the car, roses in hand, walked up to her front door, rang the doorbell, stepped back, held the roses in front of me, and waited for someone to answer the door. Mere seconds went by, I heard the door knob turn, and saw the door opening up. Susan answered the door. My eyes widened, my jaw dropped, and I started to feel a slight tingling sensation in my lower abdominal area. Yeah!!!... There!!! Anyway, I will never in my life get the absolutely breath-taking vision that I saw that night out of my head. Susan stood before me, looking like a Rock Goddess. She wore a pair of skin tight jeans that hugged every curve, a loose fitting leopard print belt, a blue Joan Jett and the Blackhearts T-shirt, a studded dog collar around her neck, Black nail polish on her fingers, wearing three inch heels With little white lace around the top and no glasses. She smirked a little bit, covering her mouth when she saw what I was wearing. I felt like a complete idiot. “What are you wearing??”, she asked with a smile, “I like your tie though”, she said. “Yeah! Well, I wanted to impress you”, I replied. “I wanted to impress you too!!!”, she responded. We shared a laugh about the whole situation, then I asked if it would be all right if I went home and changed. She said, “As long as I can go with you.” I smiled and handed her the roses. “Of course you can!!!”, I answered. The movie didn’t start till nine, so, we had plenty of time. We walked hand-in-hand to my car, I opened the car door for her, she got in, put the roses on the dashboard, looked up at me with those gorgeous green eyes and smiled, I closed the door, ran around to my side of the car, got in, started her up and drove back to my house, “Would you like to come in, Susan???”, I asked. “Sure!!”, she replied. We got out of the car and headed into the house. My mother was sitting on the couch watching another talk show. She really loves her talkshows. Anyway, “Hello Misses (name retracted for privacy)”, Susan said. “Hello Susan, you look nice”, my mom replied. “Excuse me Mom”, I said, “I have to go upstairs and get changed real quick.” I went upstairs and changed into my metal gear and came back downstairs. Susan and my mom were sitting on the couch laughing when I got down there. “Excuse me Mom”, I said. “Are you ready to go Susan”, I asked. “Yup”, she replied, “Goodnight Misses (name retracted for privacy)”. “Goodnight Susan”, my mom said in return. We left the house, walking hand-in-hand to the car, and I repeated the previous sequence of events. We then drove to the movie theater. I let Susan pick the movie, and of course, it was a chick flick. Murray’s, or Marty’s, or Murphy’s, something like that. I don’t really remember. Romance is what we saw. It wasn’t really my type of movie. But we held hands, I fed her popcorn, I put my arm around her and she put her head on my shoulder. So, it was worth it. After the movie, she said that her parents had gone out of state to visit a sick relative and that she would be home all alone. She invited me over. Now, as I said before, I’m not going to get into the details of what happened, out of respect for her. I’ll just say, that when I left, i gave her my Scooby Doo tie, and had a huge smile on my face, as well as the overwhelming urge to listen to Joan Jett and the Blackhearts. I drove home, by this time my parents had already gone to bed. So, I went upstairs to my room, put Joan Jett’s”I Love Rock And Roll cassette in the boom box, pressed play and laid down on my bed, reliving the experience I just had with Susan in my head. I couldn’t stop smiling. I must’ve fallen asleep, at some point, because I had the most fucked up dream that I’ve ever had in my whole entire life. I dreamt that I was laying on a blanket with Susan, in the middle of a bright Green meadow. Birds were chirping, the sun was shining, with a slight breeze in the air. We held hands and stared up at the clouds. It was so peaceful. She sat up and leaned over, as if she was going to kiss me. I closed my eyes and waited to taste her warm lips. With no kiss after a few seconds, I opened my eyes to see the hideous grotesque face of the old man, with his mouth wide-open, those razor sharp teeth inches from my face, as his tongue did that rattlesnake thing, only a hair’s width away from my lips. I close my eyes and screamed. When I opened my eyes again, I was at a church, standing at the pulpit. The wind was blowing hard, inside the church, dust and debris was flying everywhere. Violent bursts of fire began shooting up from the floor, one right after the other, until the whole pew area was burning. Suddenly, I felt a sharp pulling sensation on my wrists and the tops of my feet. My arms then shot up to the ceiling, my legs began kicking and thrashing all about, knocking over the pulpit. I watched as it fell into the burning flames. I then looked up at my wrists and then down at my feet. I saw a little pieces of string pulling tightly on my skin. I blinked my eyes and looked again. It wasn’t string, it was my veins. Someone or something was controlling all of my movements, like a marionette doll. I screamed again, and woke up for real, in my bedroom, curled up in a ball, screaming my brains out and sweating like a pig. My overhead light was still on. I wasn’t sure if I was still dreaming or not. So I rolled out of bed, hitting my head on the nightstand and falling to the floor. That hurt like a son of a bitch. I wasn’t dreaming anymore. I looked at the clock on my nightstand. It was 3:48 AM, the witching hour. I got off the floor, walked downstairs, put on a pot of coffee, waited for it to finish brewing, made a cup of coffee and sat on the couch in the living room. I grabbed the Bible that my parents kept on the coffee table. Even though I was doomed to burn in hell... and I did not have a soul, I figured, “What could it hurt??? Right???”
An editing base for David Bowie's photographers. From paparazzi to good friends. The original was removed by bots so I'm using my profile instead. Don't think I'll be able to put it anywhere else. Anyone coming into my profile to use this, feel free. It's unorganized as hell. Notes: Low Symphony 92, 90 shades, 87 little girl and studio, red ghost duke A:
Fraser Gray: nice '78 stage pics, sailor hat, kicking leg up and all that jazz
Francesco Scavullo: wearing ill fitting shirt in 1974, also wearing old school clothes holding fedora with big bow-tie
Frank Edwards: gonna have to use getty, wearing flat cap 75
Frank Micelotta: 96 rehearsal pic
Frank W. Ockenfels III: great ones in '95 with a jawline beard (Buddha of Suburbia shoot), red background and blue suit in 2003
Frank Trapper: walk of fame with Iman
Frans Schellekens: nice singing '89 photos
Fredrick Hjerling: 95 sitting on a box, pose w/ hand on face, in chair, shiny navy clothes
Fred W. Mcdarrah
Gary Gershoff: with Gervais in '07, 83 sitting cross legged
Gavin Evans: finally found this man- he took the shushing photos from 95, some in very dark room, edited for him to have an extremely defined visage (found one unedited though), worth looking into story
Geoff MacCormack: aka Warren Peace, lots of results will just be him with Geoff because they're great friends and you may ask yourself "but who took the dang photo?" (timed camera?)– the photos you do find by him are wonderfully intimate
George Chin: David bringing back the red platform boots wearing only blue jeans – TM
George Hurrell: 77, these are beautiful, his face is glowing– taken old Hollywood style, like Elvis
George Rose: 78 stage
George De Sota: use Getty, tan 1997 jacket with orange spiky hair, later on– some rather feminine 2001 pics
Mark Allan: very cool guy photos, looks somewhat pissed off
Mark Blackwell: took behind the scenes photos of the Outside Kerslake shoot (minotaur)
Mark Seliger: wearing royal clothes, leaning against brick wall, nice 04 pics
Mark Sullivan: grabbing milk
Markus Klinko: cool 2002 Heathen photos that were unseen for a while
Masayoshi Sukita: wonderful! I especially love the B/W Ziggy ones, very crispy looking– also did Heroes of course and very dignified '89 pics
Matthew Rolston: 93 wearing white shirt over a t-shirt and suspenders '93
Michael Benabib: with very short '98 hair, wearing red shirt making many faces
Michael Childers: looking very euphoric in the The Falcon studio for This is Not America
Michael Ferguson: 90 long Lester jacket over red shirt
Michael Gacek: wings stadium 76
Michael Lavine: several fondling with a large Bowie knife wearing a cow pattern shirt with a high collar– some in front of brick wall wearing striped– shirt (which I have trouble finding again, it was on tumblr)– some in '86
Michael Ochs: the variety in eras of these pics is astounding
Michael Stroud: or M. Stroud, photos with Dana Gillespie
Mike Abrahams: nice smiling B/W portraits from '92, one is serious
So it is time for another Ruckle story. Now for this story, I needed to give him a first name, since that is part of the tale. Since I can’t use his real name, I thought long and hard about it. Then last night I was watching an episode of Family Guy where Peter finds out his name is Justin and he lives a “Justin” lifestyle. And this just seemed like the perfect first name to describe him. So for this story and from now on, we will call him PVT Justin Ruckle. So some of you may or may not know that Joan Jett and the Blackhearts went around touring military installations around the US and the rest of the world post 9/11. We had been told that Joan and her band would be visiting our post on a Monday and that they would be visiting the gates, some of the buildings, and then have lunch with the higher ups. because of the visits and the post 9/11 world, some of us were “voluntold” to stay over so we could have a large turn out for the celebrities that were visiting us. So after my patrol ended for the night, I was “voluntold” to report to a gate and “enjoy the experience”. I like Joan Jett and the Blackhearts just fine, but I was tired and just wanted to crawl into my bed and dream of … well I probably wanted to dream of women as I was still young, dumb, and full of c**. However, like a good solder, I obeyed orders and went to the gate. Now most of you know that post 9/11 everyone was pretty much in BDUs while on duty. No matter your post, you were in BDUs. So there are way too many of us on the gates and most of us from the night crew are just hanging out in the guard shack. Ruckle, who is also on the night crew and stationed at a gate (You all know why) excuses himself to go to the bathroom. He comes out 15 minutes later in his Class A uniform. Oh yes! That lovely green uniform we all loved sweating in. He is freshly shaven and wearing corfram dress shoes with taps (Why he had taps is beyond me and it hurts my head to even think about his reasoning for them.). He even has a hint of cologne on him. Well, it was more than a hint of cologne. The first thing we all asked him was why the f*** was he wear his Class A uniform. He, very smugly, stated that he wanted to look his best for our guests. I think all of knew what he was really trying to do, but not one of us thought he had a snowball’s chance in Hell. After about 20 minutes, a Sergeant I didn’t know came by to give us a 30 minute warning. A Staff Sergeant, who we will call SSG. Hightower because of his size, walked in and told Ruckle to change back into his BDUs. Ruckle pleaded with all of us to just let him wear his Class A so he could look good. I don’t think any of us gave enough of a damn to try and force him to change so we just let Ruckle do Ruckle. So Joan Jett showed up to our gate and we all gathered outside to greet her. They arrive in three Hummers with Joan and her escort in the lead Hummer. Thats when I got my first glimpse of her. She look ragged to be honest. I mean, you could tell she was good looking, but she looked like she’d been partying for two days straight and never went to bed. I assume it was due to all the traveling she was doing. Her band looked even worse. They looked like you’d expect middle-aged rockers to look like. They looked drugged out and malnurished. I was not impressed by their appearance or their demeanor, but I liked their music so I just ignored it and waited till they left so I could go to bed. So Joan and her band are being escorted by a Major who we will call Sally. I call him this because he rode around in a bright yellow mustang. Major Sally sees buckle in his Class A and pulls him aside. I can not hear the entire conversation, but you can hear him asking Ruckle why he was dressed like that. I am sure Ruckle told him the same reason he told us. Maybe it was because major Sally was in his BDUs and didn’t want to be shown up or maybe it was because Ruckle was doing dumb s*** again, but he ordered Ruckle back into the shack. But Ruckle being Ruckle, he didn’t stay there. Now this was meant to be a photo shoot and a quick hi and bye session. It only lasted, maybe, about 15 minutes, but it was an interesting fifteen minutes. First off, not one minute after Ruckle was told to go into the shack, he comes out and stands next to Joan. Like really close to her. Like damn near mounting her close. Major Sally then snaps his fingers at Ruckle and points to the shack. Ruckle tucks tail and leaves. Two minutes later, Ruckle comes out with a not-so-clean looking coffee mug filled with water for Joan, but not her band, and tries to give it to her. Major Sally, politely because of our guest two feet away, tells Ruckle to go back inside before can even offer it to her. Two more minutes pass and everyone is getting pictures with Joan and the band. Ruckle comes out and photobombs the pictures. He then tries to talk to Joan. Before he can even get a sentence out, SSg. Hightower puts his frying pan sized hands on Ruckle’s shoulder and leads him back to the shack and we all hear him tell Ruckle to stay inside and leave the guests alone. So Ruckle, being who he is, is undeterred. He is going to get this woman and he starts franticly waving his arms at our guests trying to get their attention. Joan sees him and starts to walk over. We follow behind to see what happens. I s*** you not, this was the dialog. Ruckle: “Hi. I’m Justin and I love your music.” Joan: “Thank you so much. Would you like an autograph?” (She starts to write on a glossy photo) Ruckle: “Sure, but what I would really like to do is take you out to dinner tonight.” Joan: “Thats sweet, but I am afraid I have plans tonight and we are leaving early in the morning tomorrow, but thank you.” Ruckle: “I understand, but I think you’d have a lot more fun with me tonight. You should really think about it.” Joan: “Thanks, but like I said, I already have plans tonight.” Ruckle: “But I know…” At this moment, Major Sally, SSG. Hightower, myself, and maybe four or five other call for Ruckle to come over to us. It was a simultaneous "Ruckle come here". It must have been a bit confusing for him because he looked in several directions trying to figure out who he should report to. He finally goes over to Major Sally. If I was to describe the color of Major Sally’s face, I would say it was quickly going from Darth Vader’s red lightsaber to Mace Windu’s purple light saber in color. To his credit, Major Sally did not yell or scream. He simply grabbed SSG. Hightower by the arm and whispered in his ear. SSG Hightower tells for Ruckle to join him in the Tahoe parked near by. Ruckle looks at Joan and then to Hightower and, after a moment of hesitation, walks to the Tahoe. As he is walking away we hear: Ruckle: “Bye Joan, if you change….” Hightower: “Ruckle! Now!” (In as calm a tone he can use while restraining the urge to scream.) Ruckle heads over to the Tahoe at the double time and climbs inside. You can not make out everything being said, but the sound of SSG Hightower yelling at Ruckle is booming from the SUV. What few words you can make out include a slurry of “What the f***” and “You were told to” were coming from the vehicle. Two minutes later, a tomato red faced Hightower leaves the vehicle with a fake “everything is fine here” smile on his face and Ruckle sits in the Tahoe pouting like a small child. A few minutes later, after some more photos and a small, obviously rehearsed, speech from our guest, they were piled back into the Hummers and left for their next stop. It was a good thing to that they left when they did. One of the band members was not that bright and when he was posing for a picture with one of our dog handlers, he tried to put his arm around the dog. If you know anything about military working dogs, then you know they are some of the most ill-tempered beasts alive. The rank up there with drill sergeants who are awoken in the middle of the night and anyone who has worked with Ruckle. So after they leave, Ruckle leaves the confines of the Tahoe and proceeds back into the guard shack and rambles on about how he could tell that Joan liked him and that the Major was just jealous that Ruckle looked so good. We all ignored him. You could tell that severall of us wanted to not only correct him, but give him a good chewing out. However, we knew that word of what happened would get back to the brass and justice would be served. SSg. Hightower spent the whole time muttering ‘F***ing Ruckle” under his breath the whole time Ruckle spoke. I have a feeling that his first stop once we were dismissed was to go straight to our First Sergeant. Now that Joan Jett and the Blackhearts were gone, you think this would be the end of it. However, there needs to be some sort of cosmic justice for Ruckle’s actions and there was. So after getting shutdown by Joan Jett for a date in front of all of us, Ruckle was temporally reassigned to the dog handlers for two weeks to clean out the cages, pick up the dog s*** from the training area, and clean out other areas that may need it like the bathroom. In a perfect world he would have learned his lesson and became a better soldier after this, but I doubt anyone on this page is Ruckle enough to think that that would actually happen. And you would be right. He was just as bad as ever even after his punishment. However, this gives us more Ruckle stories to enjoy. I hope you enjoyed this tale of Ruckle getting rejected by a celebrity. I will let you decide which Ruckle story will be next. Either I can post the story of Ruckle “trains” an augmentee or Ruckle joins us for football. Again, thank you very much for reading and I hope you enjoyed the story.
So to tell the story of Fight Club I must first tell you about Lt. Cruz. Now most veterans can tell you that most Second Lieutenants/Ensigns fall into one of five categories (with a few exceptions).
The Gungho: These butter bars think that it is WWIII and that their ROTC training makes them Army Rangers/Navy Seals. They treat every maneuver like it is the D-Day Invasion and any exercise that isn't live fire, isn't really an exercise. They are most likely 2nd or 3rd generation military and let you know it every chance they get.
The Manager: This butter bar can manage an office better than most CEOs and can name every form the military has and what it is used for. However, in the field this person could struggle to navigate their way thru the drive-thru at a McDonalds. When they are on the rifle range, the only safe person is the target.
The Useless: This junior officer graduated with a degree in a pointless field of study that has no potential for earnings in the outside world. Their leadership style could be described as confusing at best as they often give orders that contradict each other. They normal realize they do not belong in the military after their first six months, but they signed a six year contract so we are stuck with them.
The Rookie: This Lieutenant knows that they don’t know it all and tries to learn from the senior NCOS and officers around them. They are good leaders on the whole will most likely make General some day.
The G.I. Bro: This is the Lt. you’d follow to Hell and back without question. They are often prior enlisted and have a commanding presence, but can make their troops feel at ease when they are around. They can joke with the best of them and if it wasn’t against regulations, they’d probably go out drinking with you. They’ll never make General, but they’ll be amazing Lt. Col.’s.
Now Lt. Cruz was defiantly the G.I. Bro of Second Lieutenants. He was prior enlisted and worked as a corrections officer in Florida while attending college. He was funny, cool, and respected. Lt. Cruz was big into wrestling and grappling. He thought that, as MPs, we should be able to take down the biggest guys and gals on post. He created, for the “purposes of training”, Fight Club. Fight Club was meant to be a place were soldiers could settle their differences, workout, practice fighting, and just have some fun. He set it up in an empty house on post. It was an older home surrounded by empty houses that were in need of demolition. Most of the homes were used for training exercises. It was the perfect location. I have a feeling that some of the higher ups knew about Fight Club, but didn’t want to interfere. Lt. Cruz made a square out of duct tape in the center of the living room. Around it were old chairs gathered from around the empty homes. Mostly lawn chairs, metal folding office chairs, and a few stools. The windows were blacked out with black trash bags so no one would see lights coming from the home and call it in (These homes were supposed to be empty). Fight Club was by invite only. Lt Cruz started with only half a dozen troops and then slowly expanded it. It happened twice a month on a date decided by him. On any given night there would be three to eight matches with lots of demonstrations and discussions going on between fights. The rules were laid out each night like in the movie, but they were slightly modified.
You do not talk about Fight Club. (Only the Lt. could authorize for someone to join)
You can only fight once a month. (Can’t have an entire company injured)
There is no rank in the ring. (from E-1 to E-7, we were all equal in the ring)
Matchups are randomly decided (Drawn from a hat) (You could request someone if both agreed)
No closed handed punches. (Leaves marks and does too much damage)
No touching of the groin. (Obvious reasons)
No hitting of the face. (Its hard to explain why half a platoon has black eyes to The Man)
No biting or scratching. (Duh)
No shirts and no shoes. (The females wore sports bras.)
Fights goes until someone taps out, says “yield”, or the ref calls it.
Whatever the ref says, goes.
I think I have those in the right order. You got 1 warning if you broke a rule and then after that you were banned for life. 99% of people respected the rules for good reason. Who wouldn’t want to be part of this. Now I didn’t get invited to Fight Club until it had been going for about three months. By this time there were at least 24 members including three of the female members of our unit. By the time the Lt. had been there a year, there were so many of us that we were using the house next door for a second arena. Lt. Cruz would show us grapping and wrestling moves every night, but would not fight anyone. He was the permanent referee and stayed neutral. Most fights only lasted a minute or two and most ended with someone choke holding someone into submission. So how would Ruckle ever get invited to Fight Club? Well, he wasn’t. Ruckle didn’t come to Fight Club until it had been going for almost a year. At this point, with so many members, sometimes people broke the first rule and “brought a friend”. Well thats how Ruckle learned about Fight Club. Now Ruckle only fought three times before he got banned at Fight Club to the best of my knowledge. The first fight was against PFC Price who I remember slamming Ruckle get thrown to the ground in the first ten seconds and putting him into a wicked half nelson. Ruckle yelled “yield” and it was over. Ruckle’s second fight was against a female member of our platoon. We’ll call her Sanchez. Sanchez was the kind of woman who would be a M60 gunner in the Infantry if they allowed women in the Infantry back then. (FYI, I am all for women in EVERY role in the military!) She is as tough as nails. Now I don’t know if she had anything personal against Ruckle, but she seemed to REALLY enjoy taking him down. In fact, it was like she was teasing with him to stretch out the torture. She started by going for a double leg takedown and had Ruckle on the ground in under three seconds. She then let him up and did it again. Then again. Ruckle started to get mad and in an act of desperation/retaliation, he slapped her in the face. There wasn’t a person in there that wasn’t p***ed at him for this. The Lt. went off on him and told him if it happened again, he’d be banned for life. Sanchez, to her credit told the Lt. that she wanted to finish the fight. So he allowed it. Probably just to see Ruckle get his a$$ handed to him. It takes her five seconds to get Ruckle in the greatest arm lock I had ever seen. His arm is being held by both her hands and her leg is bent around his neck. He couldn’t yell “yield” so he had to tap out. In addition to his warning, Ruckle received a one month suspension from Fight Club. He left immediately after the match. Ruckle’s final fight was against me. This was the happiest day of my life. I actually slipped the guy who drew names from the hat $40 to “draw” me and Ruckle. Ruckle had recently Charlie Bravoed me with a beautiful redhead and I had a grudge. I love redheads. Now I am not a huge guy. Back then I was 6’3 and 170lbs. I was a distance runner and was lean, but not skinny. My arm reach and wiriness were my biggest advantages at Fight Club. So when the match started, I did what I normally did. I worked my way behind him and put him in a choke hold. Before I could lock in my hold on his neck, he twisted his body enough for him to brake Rule 6. He gave me a nut shot that hurt like nothing else. He got me good. I immediately let go and stood up. Without thinking, I punched him right in the face, hitting him in his left cheekbone as hard as I could. Damn did it hurt. My balls were on fire and now my hand hurt like Hell. Lt. Cruz and a dozen others broke us up. I don’t know what was going on with Ruckle at that point, but I sat in a chair and was given a cold beer for my hand and one for my nuts. A few minutes later, Ruckle was banned from Fight Club for life. I was given a warning for breaking rules 5 and 7. Lt. Cruz said he understood why I did it, but he couldn’t allow it to pass even if it was Ruckle I punched. I was suspended for 2 weeks from the club, but I was fine with it. I had never received so many high fives and hand shakes in my life as I did over the next few days. Everyone acted like I had saved the planet from a meteor. I guess I wasn’t the only one who wanted to punch Ruckle. Ruckle had a beautiful bruise on his cheek for a week or so. I smiled every time I saw it. he refused to even acknowledge me for over a month. I don’t doubt that Ruckle complained to the hire ups about what happened that night. I’m sure he wanted to take down Fight Club and everyone involved. However, I doubt anyone he told cared. We had three Lt.’s and a large number of NCOs in Fight Club. What were the brass going to do? Relieve a third of a Company plus soldiers from half a dozen other MOSs including a Lieutenant from EOD? Fight Club continued for maybe another four months or so until Lt. Cruz got his orders to Germany. A few guys tried to keep it going, but it all fizzled out within a few months. Lt. Cruz was Fight Club and there was no replacement for him. I like to think that Lt. Cruz created Fight Club for a few reasons. I think he really wanted to teach us better takedown techniques. Maybe he wanted to maybe give a bit of a “F*** You” to the stuffier higher ups or to toughen us all up a bit more. I also think it made him feel good to be the Tyler Durden of the U.S. Army and helped him to build a bond with the soldier’s under him. I’ll probably never find out his underlining reasons for creating it, but I will always be grateful to him for providing me the opportunity to punch Ruckle. I look back at that night and I can’t remember the pain as well as I used to, but I can remember how great it felt to punch Ruckle right in his stupid face. I hope you enjoyed this Ruckle tale. I will post another one on Monday in which Ruckle gives a new girl on post the clap. After that story I can tell you about either the time he tried to pick up Joan Jett of Joan Jett and the Blackhearts or when the husband of a woman Ruckle was sleeping with came a callin’. It our choice. Thank you again for reading the story and I hope you enjoyed it.
2020.05.06 22:26 Ghost-Quartet30 Albums You May Have Missed In 2017
Hi, for the month of April I did a series of writeups in the Daily Discussion threads about albums from 2017 (the year I became a pop fan) that I think were overlooked or underrated. They have been compiled here for your viewing pleasure, edited for brevity.
For Fans Of: The Beach Boys, Electric Light Orchestra, staring at the night sky while walking through the city alone
Description:Across The Multiverse is an album about someone lost in space, always searching for something that they’re never quite sure if they already found. It’s a romantic sort of longing though, that special sort of sincerity that can only come from the most sardonic among us. Dent May’s voice wails as the big orchestrations clatter around him, his earnest vocals sounding somewhat detached and melancholy against the sea of instruments. This is counterbalanced by the straightforward lyrics, which lack in poeticism but make up for it with a sort of blunt charm. The album definitely has an old-school vibe to it with its classic lounge friendly rock style, but something about mixing the retro aesthetic with the spacey content really works. He’s just jamming out as he drifts through the universe, and he sounds great doing it.
Genre/Length: Bedroom Pop + Chiptunes / 21 Minutes
For Fans Of: Kero Kero Bonito, Dorian Electra, being a #epicgamer
Description: nelward has experience with both scoring video games and making straightforward pop, so he’s able to balance the two worlds better than most, but it helps that his musical style is so off-the-wall that nothing would really feel out of place in one of his songs. The sheer audacity of it all and the nods to classic pop remind me a bit of the hyper pop movement, but his references draw from video game music and it gives his music a unique feeling. His has a distinctive vocal style that sees him striking strange pitches at times and jumping into falsetto, but this unusual form of crooning makes perfect sense within the internal logic of his music. Everything is almost chaotic, but in a very artificial kind of way. This aesthetic reflects the themes of the album well: it’s about (in my interpretation) filtering the real world through the artificial to help cope and understand. The rambling lyrics careen around random imagery like technology and food, but these minutiae are just sonic pleasures swirling around the core messages of the songs.
Sample Track:“seafoam breeze” is a quirky little song about colors, among other things.
Description: The best way I can sum this album up is “a lot of fun;” sunny, dancing in the living room style pop anthems. Brother Bear (aka Matt Puckett of Mother Falcon, if that means anything to you) does a great job with the arrangements, leaning in to ’70s/‘80s sounds as well as more contemporary hip-hop to give the songs a vintage feel with a bit of an edge. Protextor’s rap skills are impressive but he also has surprising singing chops that make the choruses of the songs really soar. These two can’t seem to be contained to any one genre, constantly shifting styles between tracks from disco to funk to r&b; in spite of this shotgun approach the album feels very cohesive and maintains quality throughout. There’s even a feature from Cupcakke! This is such a well put together pop record I’m shocked it went so under the radar.
Sample Track:“Not Tonight” is a disco-pop song that feels like it was lifted right from the ’80s.
For Fans Of: Ariana Grande, BoA, the Radio Disney era
Description: If you’ve ever wondered what Ariana Grande might have sounded like if she’d debuted as a teen pop star in the ‘90s, it might’ve been something like Beverly. A powerhouse vocalist with an old-school sensibility, Beverly feels like she fell through time and into modern Japan clutching this LP to her chest. Her throwback sound is very versatile, scanning the annals of pop history for doo-wop cuts, ‘90s bubblegum/r&b tracks, soulful ‘00s contemporary pop jams, and all sorts of other pleasantly nostalgic treats. It’s her voice that really elevates the tracks though, she’s an incredibly powerful singer who sells the hell out of all the songs. While maybe not the most groundbreaking project it’s still an expertly assembled pop album handled by a strong vocalist, and those are always welcome. If you’ve been missing pop that’s huge and loud, this could be it.
Sample Track:“Empty” could easily be an old school Christina Aguilera cut.
Description: This is one of the most powerful musicals to have come out in a long time and it produced an absolutely gorgeous cast album. The musical tells the story of an Egyptian orchestra who, due to a miscommunication, end up stranded in a remote town in the Israeli desert and must spend the night with the townspeople. Not much really happens in the show, but it’s a tender exploration of the human condition and the loneliness and longing for connection that we all share, and the songs really reflect this. The music is very intimate, something not usually associated with a big budget Broadway musical, but the simmering music combined with the all star performances from the cast illustrate the story beautifully. The composer pulls from Middle Eastern styles, and there are beautiful instrumental interludes peppered throughout the album that showcase this even more, and the lyrics are breathtaking as well. It’s a modern classic of both music and theatre that everyone should listen to.
For Fans Of: LOONA 1/3, early MIKA, secretly streaming “ME!” by Taylor Swift
Description:Color Crush is like spending all day at a carnival, it’s a journey packed with excitement that gradually winds down into a gentle parade of lights. This album is so genuinely joyful, with every part being calibrated for maximum fun. True to its name it’s full of colorful compositions packed with little flourishes that give everything a playful, imaginative feel. The writing is sharp, and the compositions are smartly rooted in heavy 808s that cut through the noise and give the album some kick beneath the cute. The members of ELRIS are very talented and their ebullient voices have surprisingly diverse tones that carry the album through its weaker moments. On the whole this is a short album, but one where every track is worth while.
Genre/Length: Rap / 32 Minutes For Fans Of: Princess Nokia, Jamila Woods, alt-r&b albums with a concept Description:Creature! is an appropriate name for this album because Nitty Scott is an absolute beast. I love her voice, she oozes confidence and her flow is so clear and natural. You get every word she says, which is good because she has some things to say here. The album tells the loose narrative of a woman named Negrita who falls “down the rabbit hole” into pre-colonial Puerto Rico and reconnects with her roots, and through this character Scott is able to express her own experiences as an Afro-Latina woman. She appropriates “exoticism” for herself here and allows the sounds of the Caribbean to haunt this album, and they blend perfectly into the poppin’ beats to give the album a unique sound. Magical realism is often a part of her aesthetic, but it works particularly well here. She finds time for both ferocity and fun on this album, managing to address the struggles of her ancestors while still celebrating being a badass rap chick.
Genre/Length: J-Idol Metal + Synthpop / 35 Minutes
For Fans Of: Poppy, Dreamcatcher, anime music from hell
Description: Branding themselves as “ultra-dark” and writing songs about witches and Lovecraft, NECRONOMIDOL are a gem from Japan’s colorful “alt-idol” scene. Their concept is that they fuse metal with traditional idol sounds, lacing their shredding guitars with synths and electronic elements. It’s an interesting blend that gives them a broad appeal to fans of both metal and pop and this album is a great showcase of that. They offer headbanger metal tracks and foot stomping synth pop tracks in equal measure, all with that wickedly dark flair that gives the group its name. “Creepy children singing” is a horror movie staple but NECRONOMIDOL weaponize it, juxtaposing the members’ youthful voices against the creepy production to haunting effect. This album has such a goth aesthetic while still having a lot to offer musically, and it’s a great introduction to an interesting music scene.
Sample Track:“4.7L” is a DDR-esque darkwave banger
For Fans Of: Summer Walker, Amy Winehouse, romantic movies
Description: Though this album has a somewhat silly title it’s actually a very elegant exploration of love by one of the finest voices new voices in r&b. The chilly (almost lo-fi) r&b arrangements are sparse but detailed, and supplemented by touches of old school hip-hop, Motown, lounge music, and more. This vintage sensibility is draped around Aalegra like a cloak as she glides through the album, capturing every different kind of melodrama there is to romance with a knowing sigh. Her rich, raspy voice is like water that flows through her songs, and she plays well with the featured artists too. The sheer style of this album is impeccable, no matter what Snoh Aalegra is expressing she makes it sound effortlessly cool. That’s the word for the whole album really: effortless.
Sample Track:“Fool For You” showcases Snoh Aalegra’s ability to be absolutely mesmerizing.
For Fans Of: Dolly Parton, Elle King, Janet Jackson’s experiments with non-dance genres
Description:Freedom Highway is an exploration of the struggles of black people in America. The stories she tells are harsh but presented simply and matter-of-factly, making them feel intensely human rather than melodramatic or preachy. Some of these songs are covers of classics, most of them are original compositions, and you can’t even tell which are which because of how timeless her writing is. These songs are brought to life by rich compositions of thumping percussion and twanging strings that make the perfect backdrop for her haunting voice. While her music is accessible it’s way more on the “country” side of “pop-country,” leaning in to the blues, jug band music, spirituals, gospel, folk ballads, dixieland jazz, and probably more styles that I can’t even name, but there’s also the odd hip-hop/rap track sprinkled in there, blending seamlessly in with the rest of the songs (which, I think, is the point).
Sample Track:“We Could Fly” got rave reviews for how ageless it sounds
For Fans Of: Avril Lavigne, P!nk, the band Lindsay Lohan is in in Freaky Friday (2003)
Description: Hey Violet feel like that girl you knew in high school who was kind of a mess and always had some insane story to tell about doing something that should have lander her in jail, but her eyeliner was always perfect and she was the coolest chick you knew. Between the DGAF vocals, the robust pop production, and “fuck you” topics this album has spunk in spades. There’s an unexpected diversity of tracks, touching on disco, rock, straightforward pop, emo, even a few cheerleader-esque tracks that call to mind “Hollaback Girl;” it feels old-school in a way with how it mines the history of pop, but it’s more retro-chic than anything else because Hey Violet are far too cool to seem behind the times. This album just slaps in a way that many albums coming out today don’t, and they should have become a bigger force in the pop scene after this.
For Fans Of: Rufus Wainwright, Shy Girls, digging through music for feelings like a pop archeologist
Description: Rostam had already cut his teeth in the music business for a decade as a member of Vampire Weekend and a writeproducer for other artists by the time, which is why it’s interesting that this album sounds so… innocent. It feels like a dreamcatcher that’s caught bits of dreams and memories as they’ve flown past and now they hang flickering like Christmas lights. These moments are tender, melancholy, inconsequential, earth shattering, but all presented in a fashion that makes them feel familiar and approachable. Rostam’s voice melts over the tracks like butter, his warm and throaty tone making him blend into the fabric of the music in a way that makes him sound all encompassing rather than shapeless. The album sounds like everything and nothing at once, it’s easy to listen to and a little difficult to get the most out of, but the rewards are enough to keep you coming back for more.
Sample Track:“Bike Dream” is a sexual yet sweet little song.
For Fans Of: Charli XCX, Kesha, alt-pop girls on the fringes of the mainstream
Description: Imani Coppola is the kind of artist who does whatever she wants, a rebellious spirit whose chosen field is pop music. Her music always feels trendy and relevant but ever so slightly… off, somehow. Hypocrites is a great example of that, a pseudo-concept album devoted to exploring modern life wherein Imani gives her sardonic takes on everything from online dating to how awesome she thinks she is to a diss track directed at her cat. There’s clearly some level of parody to the over the top persona she’s projecting, but exactly how much is left up to the listener. Whatever her true intention, her characteristic witty lyricism makes the songs really fun to listen to, even if you roll your eyes every now and then. Musically it’s an eclectic mix of autotune drenched electro pop and more organic tracks which pull from all sorts of random styles, not her best work but her lyricism and strong ear for melodies keep it a solid listen.
Description: This is the soundtrack to a J-Drama I’ve never seen, I just stumbled across it while searching for something else, but I’m glad that I did because it’s a really cute album. Takeshi Hanzawa (who also records under the name FreeTempo) is a fantastic electronic producer and his compositions on this album are fantastic. It’s mainly based in warm synth-heavy house and a funky big band sound (with some non-obtrusive vocals to spice things up), but he finds a lot of wiggle room within these styles. The songs capture a great selection of moods like peppy, hopeful, melancholy, anxious, and everything else you could need. It’s a surprisingly seductive album, you start off grooving along to some cheery dance music and then a few minutes later you’re sitting there reflecting on your choices to gentle piano music. It may be an out of context soundtrack, but good music always connects.
Sample Track:“23:59” is such a thrilling piece of house music
Genre/Length: Synthpop + Rock / 50 Minutes For Fans Of: Poppy, Spellling, twisted indie horror films Description:The Lure is a film loosely inspired by The Little Mermaid if the little mermaid were actually two man-eating mermaid sisters who get a job singing at a cabaret in ‘80s Poland. As if that wasn’t wild enough, it’s also a musical with a kickass soundtrack! While I would recommend watching it, the soundtrack works perfectly well independently and still captures the surreal, goth aesthetic of the film through a strong collection of pop songs. The cabaret that the mermaids work at in the film is pretty seedy, and that grimy cheapness is reflected in the crunchy, almost karaoke sounding retro-synth music. The album also veers into metal at times, and haunting “siren songs” are peppered throughout the album as well, adding mystery and danger to the mix. The songs on the album are trying to sound pretty but they just can’t shake the darkness that lurks beneath them. It’s a wholly unique project and a very seductive listen.
For Fans Of: Panic! At The Disco, Paramore, basement shows from unknown bands
Description: For You The Moon is a collaboration project between two indie artists (Neil Reynolds and Cathryn Wake) and while I don’t know anything about either of them, they make a great impression here. They’re strong producers with big voices and despite the low budget they serve up huge melodies and ambitious production that’s constantly introducing new ideas to keep things fresh and moving. The album has a sharp electropop sound but it also has touches of vaudeville (owing to Cathryn’s theatre background) and emo rock (Neil is also the frontman of a band). I love how bold this album is, It’s a little bit crunchy at times, but I think that just adds to the appeal. They’re a nice shot of energy if you’ve been looking for some electric indie pop.
Sample Track:“Head In The Clouds” feels like something that would have gotten overplayed on the radio.
Genre/Length: Synthpop / 42 Minutes For Fans Of: LOONA, Meghan Trainor, daydreaming you’re a princess in a fairy tale Description: Since they debuted Lovelyz have crafted a “signature sound” that revolves around dreamy synths and tight harmonies (plus to a lesser extent chiptunes and theatre influences), and this album is the peak of their formula. Lovelyz are unapologetically frothy, but beneath their innocent aesthetic hides surprisingly complex song craft. While some of the songs on the album are just bubblegum-pop perfected, many of them are somewhat unusual sounding and offer twists via unusual arrangements and song structures. Their composers know what they’re doing and root their music in old school disco/pop/r&b sounds that allow them to be quirky while still maintaining that classic feel. The end result is a tight-yet-diverse album that’s intelligent for how sugary sweet it is.
Sample Track: Despite the world’s most generic title, “The” is an upbeat track with a spunky almost garage-band feel to it.
Genre/Length: Bubblegum Pop / 36 Minutes For Fans Of: The Cardigans, Meghan Trainor, retrofuturism Description: Pearl & The Oysters feel like a band that would be playing during a party scene in a ‘60s beachsploitation film, except that movie is set on the moon. A self-described “raygun pop” act, they filter that classic ’60s bubblegum sound through a layer of synths peppered with flashes of r&b and the result is a throwback that still sounds fresh thanks to the sharp production and slightly left-of-center writing. Their music sits on the right side of twee, remaining fun and carefree without being too obnoxiously sweet. They pay tribute to the Space Age, exotica, Wendy Carlos, everything you could want and more.
Genre/Length: Electropop / 17 Minutes For Fans Of: Selena Gomez, NIKI, local small time pop girls with bops Description: Though she’s recently made a shift towards being a baddie rap chick (her latest single was imaginatively titled “Ass Fat”) but she began her career as an aspiring pop girl. It’s a shame she didn’t continue in this direction because I absolutely love this EP; it’s a strong collection of trendy pop songs that still feel very fresh today. Some the unusual instrumental choices (the EP is meant to be influenced by her upbringing in China) and her somewhat airy, somewhat raspy voice give the album a sense of personality and she keeps the energy up while maintaining a chill vibe. The songs have themes of anticipation and reflection, an exploration of growing up and finding your place. For a fairly small artist she makes her songs feel very big, with cavernous production making the songs feel expansive and adventurous.
For Fans Of: Dua Lipa, Charli XCX, ‘80s/‘90s pop classics
Description: A lot of the time people hear a synth and just go “oh it’s ‘80s inspired” but Urbani really draws out the essence of artists like Madonna and Janet Jackson, and she has the chops to pull it off. Her confident and flexible voice pairs well with the huge production of stuttering drums, wailing guitars, and crisp synths. There’s even extended dance breaks! While the songs are perfectly calibrated to pump you up and get those hands in the air, the lyrical content is very well written and keeps the songs from just feeling like pretty noise. She provides nuanced examinations of the power dynamics that underscore her relationships; what drives her away, what pulls her back, and everything in between. She promised power, and she delivered.
Sample Track:“U Know I Know” has an ear worm of a hook and some tricky little lyrics.
Genre/Length: Pop + New Wave / 45 Minutes For Fans Of: Blondie, Sigrid, albums you can both scream along to in the car and listen to quietly while sitting at home Description:Pollinator is a deceptively strange album, tapping an unconventional menagerie of collaborators including Joan Jett, Blood Orange, Charli XCX, Sia, a pre-breakdown Lucian Piane, film YouTuber Adam Johnston, and a feature from the guy who voices Linda Belcher on Bob’s Burgers. These diverse voices and styles are filtered through that classic Blondie sound and the end result is an eclectic track list crackling with strong hooks and melodies. There’s a loose, almost psychedelic feeling to the album thanks to abstract lyrics and a general sense of “fuzziness” that’s pleasant to listen to. The songs are somewhat subdued because they can trust a legend like Debbie Harry to carry them, and she remains as powerful a performer as ever. Although they’ve perhaps become more unassuming, Blondie’s music remains as captivating as ever.
Genre/Length: Indie-Pop / 36 Minutes For Fans Of: Surfjan Stevens, Igor by Tyler, The Creator, internet weirdness that feels authentic Description:Pop Food is definitely Jack’s most accessible record thanks to the strong pop focused writing that features robust instrumentals, prominent melodies, and catchy hooks. It’s an unusual sounding album, but unusual in a comfortingly familiar way. Jack has a very distinctive voice which is incredibly flexible and emotive despite him sounding like he’s singing through a mouth full of marbles, a technique that lends his music a unique feeling. It’s a bit difficult to parse out what he’s saying but the lyrics are good too, abstract but honest and relatable. A big part of what makes Jack Stauber so successful as an artist is the solid, very human core that his work draws from; there’s an almost vulnerability to the weirdness as if the layers of filters and #aesthetic allow him to be truly free.
Sample Track:“Candy Eyes” melts me every time I hear it, such a touching love song.
For Fans Of: Lady Gaga, Robyn, remixes that sound like new songs
Description: One of three albums (💀) released in 2017, Remember Me takes songs from RuPaul’s under appreciated earlier albums and gives them the old school remix treatment. The rich r&b/house sounds that made up the original tracks are deconstructed and pieced back together as electric dance floor mixes, a wonderful new context for these classic hits. He worked with several different producers on this project who give this project shades, most notably the ear candy electro pop of the KUMMERSPECK tracks and the almost sultry huskiness of the ylxr tracks. RuPaul’s music has become something of a side project in recent years, but projects like this show his legacy is definitely something to remember.
Description: Before Tik Tok was pumping out hits we had Vine, which spawned the massively successful “Lost Boy” which gave way to Ruth B’s debut album Safe Haven. Though not as commercially successful as “Peter Pan,” Safe Haven maintained the same dreamy qualities while adding an even poppier twist. The songs on this album are crafted around simple hooks and melodies, which are then bulked up by romantic pop production. Ruth B has a knack for storytelling and each song has a unique angle and a satisfying journey. It’s wise but in that youthful sort of way that tries so hard to be poetic and reach for something greater even when it doesn’t succeed it’s charming. It has a bit of the spark that the flash-in-the pan adult contemporary stars of the early ’00s had, updated with a more modern sensibility. Like many one-hit wonders, Ruth B. deserved better.
For Fans Of: Grimes, M.I.A., video game soundtracks
Description:I’m going to link this interview with Fatima Al Qadiri where she talks about the meaning, background, and composition of this album because it’s very fascinating, but the abbreviated version is this: The EP takes its title from an Arabic slang term for a gender defying “evil queen,” though “evil” is a bit pejorative in this case. Al Qadiri notes that there’s no direct English translation of the term, but from my understanding it’s similar to Western conceptions of “fierceness” or being a “bad bitch.” A Shaneera terrorizes the gender binary, too loud to be contained, too sexual to be stopped, and that’s the spirit that Al Qadiri captures through energetic electronic music. An intoxicating blend of Arabic and Western electronic styles (with a dash of video game music thrown in), these are hot and heavy dance floor anthems that capture the wicked, mischievous spirit she’s going for perfectly. Voices shout at you from within the haze of music like they’re a final boss taunting you (or perhaps seducing you) as the bass hammers and synth melodies curl around your ankles. It’s a campy, chaotic, cinematic experience.
Sample Track:“Spiral” got a (mildly NSFW) music video
For Fans Of: P!nk, Paramore, female fronted rock acts from the Warped Tour era
Description: SAINTE is a side project by Taylor Jardine of the rock band We Are The In Crowd, and for her solo work she took things in a much poppier direction. And we all love a poppier direction. smile, and wave is a tight EP packed with electric hooks and vocals, with most of the songs being centered around self-discovery and cutting toxicity out of your life. The slammin’ guitars and drum licks of WATIC are still present but that spunky garage band energy has been polished to a colorful sheen, the rough edges smoothed out into something a little more plastic but no less compelling. It’s very cohesive but each song has a distinct enough idea and strong enough lyrics that they all really pop individually. I got a LOT of mileage out of this EP in 2017, and it’s something I always return to fondly.
For Fans Of: Aviators, city pop, YouTube videos of old songs playing over footage of ‘80s anime
Description: Cyndi Seui is confusingly named because he’s a man from Thailand, but fortunately the album is very straightforward. Inspired by the ideas of the vaporwave movement (less so the sound), with Summer FM he attempts to capture the feeling of listening to an imaginary radio station from another era. And he succeeds! The album is a steady stream of #mood music that feels gloriously kitschy and retro while still sounding relevant. Its shiny future funk stylings are spiced up by flashes of r&b/hip-hop, with distant vocals fading in and out just because they sound cool. Like vaporwave, what this album lacks in substance it makes up for in pure style. It really does feel like something to blast while riding down the coastline on a summer day, full of positive vibes and slick grooves.
For Fans Of: Carly Rae Jepsen, Katy Perry, underrated pop girls
Description:The Valley refines the sprawling excellence of Betty’s debut album into a collection of tight pop songs that reach for hit potential, and the end result It’s a veritable smorgasbord for the discerning pop fan. She offers up pitch perfect pop perfection of every type she can think of: empowerment anthems, love songs, breakup jams, covers, collaborations, all of which come pack with monster choruses and delectable synth work. She can make you feel like you’re flying and tug at your heart strings and make you dance, and sometimes all three at once. By all accounts this should have been a star making album, and despite its underperformance it stands as one of the best pure pop albums of 2017.
For Fans Of:Sucker by Charli XCX, soundtracks to children’s movies
Description: This was actually the last direct to video Barbie movie and while that makes me sad, I’m at least glad the series could go out on such a high note. Video Game Hero was a great film with a great soundtrack, fittingly tapping into an electropop/dance sound that goes surprisingly hard. As you’d expect from the soundtrack to a direct to video Barbie film the songs are a sugar rush designed to hype up young girls, and I wouldn’t have it any other way. Though a little faceless, they make up for it in pep, and though formulaic, they make up for it with fun. I can’t pretend that this album is in any way highbrow but I also can’t deny that it’s enjoyable, and we could all use a little bit of unironic positive affirmation every now and then.
Sample Track:“Power Up” has a really fun instrumental.
Genre/Length: Alt-Pop + Rock / 32 Minutes For Fans Of: Kevin Abstract, Ryan Beatty, venting about the world on social media Description: A kaleidoscope of genres, shifting between sounds as fluidly as it shifts through ideas. It’s an album full of surprises, you never know what the next track is gonna sound like just like you never know what Tyler Cole is going to say or do. As the title implies the album deals with anxiety surrounding both romance and the general shittiness of the world writ large, and while it verges on /im14andthisisdeep at points his delivery and emotions are so raw that it’s still effective. It’s cool to hear an album that’s so unconcerned by sounding strange or ugly; his lyrics might not be the most erudite and his warbling falsetto and throaty screams aren’t perfect but these elements are always compelling. The album in touch with the zeitgeist without being cliche, and although the persona that Cole presents is very Instagram-friendly you can hear the genuine fear underneath it all that’s driving him to write this.
Sample Track:“Bones (Pt. 1 & 2)” are a good display of the genre shifting nature of the album, I love the country-ish second half.
And that's that! What are some other underrated gems from this year?
2020.03.28 09:06 G33kyArmyI hate that I like my crush
I'm a 21 y/o female, I assume my crush is 22 (he should be in his fourth year of university come fall given he'll be doing his internship then), he's in a club I'm in at uni, but I don't know much about him personally, and I don't even know if he's single. I don't know why I like him. I have never gone on dates because teenage dating was off limits, and now I just haven't found a guy I want to date/would date me. Even the guy I like, date sounds fun in theory, but not worth it in the long run. He technically checks off my ultimate dealbreaker, which is not a personality thing or anything super serious, I just don't want to get into details. And even then, he's generally not really my type of guy to begin with. I was in denial about liking him for like two months. But in hindsight, I wanted to watch Friends season 8 around the time I started liking him because it was where Joey gets a crush on Rachel. A friend of mine says she sees the parallel, of developing a crush on a friend, not being able to do anything, not wanting to ruin the friendship, yadda yadda, so my desire to watch something kind of heartbreaking or distressing was odd, even to me. In hindsight, again, I always felt an impulse to keep conversations going when he and I were alone after the classic icebreakers, I sometimes tried to go more full out on activities the club did when he was around, and when he performed at an event that we both attended, I caught myself kind of gazing at him the way I had with my high school crush when he was the lead in the musical. My sister said crushes happen more easily when you haven't liked anyone in a while, and considering my last crush was in 2017 in my first year in post secondary, I say it's fair to assume that could be the case. But at the same time, this guy has many admirable traits, and I do personally think he's attractive. The aforementioned sister and I also have a joke that I'm like an anime protagonist, and I had one situation with this guy that felt very anime-esque to me. Club had bad news regarding something I was leading. The group talked about it, then I had to go fill my water bottle. After I left, he chased me down, giving me my phone (for reasons I am still unsure of) and as I grabbed it, he kept hanging onto it, our hands touching, and asked if I was ok, and saying that our group would figure things out. Then he left. I kept my composure until he left. I was a little dumbfounded by that, but I laughed at myself afterwards, and thought it was just the cherry on top of my faux anime life. The only good I've seen come from this crush is I've finally matured to a point that I can talk to a guy I like without looking or sounding awkward/ making it obvious. The hand touching thing was the only exception, and I didn't even make it awkward, my brain and heart just raced. Probably gave more details than anyone needed, but I just want to get over this guy. The self reminders that he's not whatever don't help. I'm stumped, my friends have no advice, a couple of my friends think my crush is cute, I have to keep this a secret from my best friend because she shipped us before I liked him, and I do not want to encourage that, and my parents would give me the high school lectures again of not causing drama, and then give me grief for feeling things for him. Please please give me some advice on getting this guy out of my romantic mind? I can only listen to "I Hate Myself For Loving You" by Joan Jett & The Blackhearts so many times before it stops helping me feel the slightest relief from all this.
2020.03.19 09:38 DrewwwBjorkIdea for Sequel to That '70s Show
Let's say it's 1991. George H.W. Bush is President. Bill Clinton is still Governor of Arkansas. Flowers and smiley faces are replaced with posters of Nirvana. Shoulder pads start going out of style, and the world is shocked at the news of Freddie Mercury's death. Then the camera pans to Betsy Kelso, the precocious 12-year-old daughter of Michael Kelso and Brooke Rockwell. Life in Point Place, Wisconsin, hasn't changed much since 1979. Even the water tower is still standing: green hand giving the finger and all. Relationships evolved however. Eric and Donna are currently separated. The stress from Donna going on book tours and Eric staying home with the kids got to them. To make matters worse, Eric's sister, Laurie, died as a result of the crack epidemic. On the bright side, Red and Kitty are still enjoying their retirement as a result of Red accepting the buyout from Muffler Master. Fez and Jackie broke up a couple years after getting together after she found him in bed with the landlord. Jackie is now a real estate agent since she has the gifts of pizzazz, lying, and being a cutthroat. In fact, the first property she sold was the apartment building Fez lived in. Fez wasn't the only person in the gang without a home. Hyde owned and operated Grooves for a few years until the police raided the back room and found a marijuana growing operation. He spent the next few years in prison and just got out. Eric picked him up outside the prison gates and took him in as a third roommate with Fez. Finally, Michael and Brooke got married in 1980 since Michael moved to Chicago, and nobody there wanted to date a dumbass or a single mother. Their sex life, while similar to Bob's and Midge's, drives Betsy crazy much like Donna's parents did to her, and it often forces Betsy to venture out around Point Place with the Forman kids. The story goes on from there. Notes:
Much like Young Sheldon is to The Big Bang Theory, this new show could be like that to That '70s Show but with more mature humor.
"Bad Reputation" by Joan Jett could be the title song since it's about a girl who doesn't care about her bad reputation (i.e. Betsy) and was released in 1980 (i.e. the year That '70s Show finally closes on).
As more festivals and shows are getting announced, and we have a few confirmed acts, it's probably time to start working on this beast. I've combed through the first speculation thread as well as other festival lineups to get this base going, but I'm sure I missed a fair amount. As per usual, I'll try to make edits quickly, but sometimes I don't always get to it right away.
Announced summeearly fall tour with no Chicago dates and Riot Fest weekend open; most likely album play
On tour with Coheed
Playing reunion shows in 2020; tour skips Chicago
Playing Detriot 9/13
A Day to Remember
No Chicago tour dates for summer; last played Riot in 2017
Playing PRB; haven't played Riot since 2012
Playing shows here and there
All American Rejects
15 year anniversary of Move Along
Amyl & the Sniffers
Playing other festivals
Angels and Airwaves
Playing other festivals
Armor for Sleep
Teasing a tour
At The Drive In
Updated social media; 20 year anniversary of Relationship of Command
Recently released new music; generally plays Riot every other year
No Chicago date on upcoming tour
Playing other festivals; haven't played Riot since 2017
Released debut album on 2/14; played Lolla last year, not playing P4K
Open around Riot Fest; Milwaukee only midwest dates
New music; no U.S. tour announced yet
New album this year; tour skips Chicago
Playing reunion shows this year
Bring Me the Horizon
New music; played Lolla last year
Playing other festivals
Playing other festivals; in the States a month before Riot
Coming out with new music in 2020
Playing PRB; west coast spring tour
Cage the Elephant
Playing other festivals; could also play Lolla
No Chicago tour dates for summer; has a Chicago date in April
New Ian MacKaye and Joe Lally project coming out with new music
Haven't played since 2015
Dance Gavin Dance
New music in 2020
The Dead Milkmen
Haven't played since 2015
Playing other festivals; played Lolla last year
Playing one off shows this year
Playing other festivals; hasn't played since 2017
Working on new music; sporadic tour dates
The Dresden Dolls
More active on social media
Spring tour skips Chicago
Playing a festival in southern Illinois Riot Fest weekend
Released new music in 2019; tour skipped Chicago
Playing reunion shows this year; Chicago date in March outside of 90 day radius
Teasing a reunion
Gang of Youths
Playing other festivals around Riot Fest
From splattertaint "Just saw Glass Animals at Lincoln Hall! Toward the end of the show, the lead singer said he would see is very soon and then proceeded to say, “See you in September!” So I think it’s fair to say that they’ll be at Riot Fest since they are doing a few other fests this summer!"
The Go Go's
Summer tour skips Chicago
Announced spring tour that skips Chicago
Have never played Riot
No Chicago date; could also play Lolla
Playing other festivals
Released a new single in December 2019
Reunited last year; playing other festivals
Jesus and Mary Chain
Playing spring European tour; hasn't played since 2012
The Juliana Theory
Playing shows this year; playing a festival the weekend after Riot
King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard
Playing other festivals; will release 20 albums in 2020
Playing a Riot Fest presents show right outside 90 days
New music coming in 2020
Playing other festivals
Reunited this year; playing PRB
Playing other festivals; have grown since they last played in 2018
Released new music in 2019
Playing other festivals this year
The Mighty Mighty Bosstones
20th anniversary of Moon and Antarctica
Motion City Soundtrack
Played a couple of reunion shows
New Found Glory
Playing a Riot Fest presents show right outside 90 days
New music; haven't played since 2016
No U.S. dates announced for the year; 20th anniversary of Conspiracy of One
New music coming in 2020; playing other festivals
Playing other festivals
Presidents of the U.S.
Released new music in 2019; haven't played Riot since 2014; playing other festivals
No tour dates in Chicago
Reel Big Fish
Have never played Riot
Playing other festivals; haven't played Riot since 2017
Played a show in January so far
Currently doing a 20th anniversary tour
Playing a Riot Fest presents show right outside 90 days
Sleep On It
Released new music last year
The Smashing Pumpkins
Playing other festivals
Playing other festivals
Stiff Little Fingers
Haven't played since 2014; Toured Inflammable Material last year
50th anniversary of Fun House
New music coming in 2020; playing other festivals; tour skips Chicago
New music; European tour in October
New music; haven't played since 2012
Fall tour; no Chicago date
The Ghost Inside
Playing a few shows this year
Playing shows this year; haven't played Riot since 2016
Spring west coast tour; no midwest dates
Teasing a tour; 10th anniversary of The Monitor
Playing Psycho Las Vegas
Tyler, the Creator
Igor; could play Lolla or P4K, but has played Riot Denver in the past
2020.01.24 03:19 weirdscience78Please make dolls look like real people!!!!!
I have always been a fan of Mattel. But I hate the cartoon-like faces on their figures. Please Mattel, make your dolls look more human! I collect 1/6 scale figures. And Mattel has done a great job on dolls/figures of Elvis, James Dean, Frank Sinatra, Elizabeth Taylor, Audrey Hepburn, Cher, Beyonce, Jennifer Lopez, Joan Jett etc. But thier regular 'fashion doll' looks like a cartoon of a little girl. Thier original doll from the 1950s looks like a woman from the 1930s. In the 1980s they made dolls who looked liked women in the 1950s (on coke). Now (2020) thier 'platinum dolls' look like women from the 1960s/1970s! It doesnt make sense. IT'S OUT OF DATE (Mattel is behind). For example: Lets compare Barbie to Integrity Toy's 'Fashion Royalty'. Barbie has a sturdier body but FR has better faces. The faces on the FR dolls look like real people compared to the cartoon barbie face. And I wont buy any more Mattel items until I see something new and interesting. There are so many companies out there stealing the market away from Mattel (HOT TOYS!!!!!). Please wake up Mattel and make your figures look real.
2020.01.13 17:43 blaghart[Firefly] The Legend of the Browncoats
18 years ago this September a show premiered on Fox. It was a mid-season replacement, ostensibly a show meant to fill a gap left by another cancelled program. In the end, though scheduled for a full season, it was cut short, with just 11 of the 14 filmed episodes airing during its initial run. Despite this almost everyone on this site can quote some part of the show to this day, whether you've seen it or not. Everyone knows the name Firefly.
THE MAN THEY CALL JOSS
Joss Whedon was a writer in the 80s and 90s. Prior to 1992 he was mostly known behind the scenes as a writer on Rosanne and the failed Movie-to-TV Ron Howard show Parenthood. He was also well known as a script doctor, doing punch-up and dialogue work on Speed, Alien Resurrection, Waterworld, The Gateway, and Twister, as well as doing an early draft of the original X-Men film and co-writing the first Toy Story. If you heard snappy dialogue full of deadpan sarcasm or a weird line that sounded really lame in a 90s-2000s film he probably wrote or had a hand in writing it. And in the case of the latter example, probably also wrote a bunch of context the lame line was supposed to be related to, but which executives meddled and omitted from the final product, see: "What happens to a toad when it's struck by Lightning? The same thing that happens to everything else" Evidently that was from his early draft, where Toad was supposed to constantly be cracking jokey fun-facts about all the things real life toads could do that made them not lame. Then in 1992 he released perhaps the defining element of his career, Buffy the Vampire Slayer. The movie one. Defining because he wrote the original script, then executives meddled with it until it was a bastardized monster that kinda sucked, a pattern that would repeat for him several times with Alien Resurrection, Titan A.E., Angel, and later Avengers: Age of Ultron. This also marked the other habit of his, getting a second chance to do-over the thing that sucked and making it waaaaaaaaaaaaay better.
BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER
In 1997 Whedon executive produced (and wrote most of the episodes for) his television revival of Buffy The Vampire Slayer. Originally conceived as turning the Slasher film on its head by having the "innocent blonde girl" actually be the thing monsters are afraid of because stronger, faster, and magically empowered to kill them, the series eventually grew into a metaphorical exploration of young adulthood (and later adult adulthood) through the lense of horror monsters. Buffy had to deal with real issues real teens dealt with, and much like Spiderman before her she was a massive hit. The series struck a chord with teens and young adults, right at the same time that the internet and internet forums were starting to be a thing. The show averaged 5-6 million viewers an episode. This led to a massive, vocal fanbase that would discuss and speculate about upcoming events in the show, past events, and what have you, and even gave birth to the website TVTropes, whose original mission statement was discussing the writing tools the show used to convey its themes. This also established many of Joss' writing habits, from his preference for subverting expectations to his habit of killing minor-but-beloved characters because it would emotionally impact audiences more than simply killing off a main character. It also began to cement Whedon's position as nerd jesus, and get him some clout with the executives, leading to Buffy's spinoff series Angel
While buffy continued on its storylines post Buffy's graduation from high school and into college, Angel dealt with her Vampire-with-a-soul Boyfriend and many people's first example of a self-loathing-bad-boy-just-looking-for-love Vampire, living in Los Angeles and dealing with his redemption. The show explored darker and more mature themes right as the goth-wave of culture was starting to rise among teens, best exemplified in the differences in the theme songs between Angel and buffy If Buffy was Joan Jett, Angel is Darling Violetta. I shit you not that's the actual name of the band that did the opening theme. Angel also marked the beginning of Joss' battles with the Executives in TV Anime fans who remember the clusterfuck that was 4kids entertainment will be familiar with the bullshit nonsense executives demand and change, and WB was no different. So despite the two shows literally sharing characters, being on the same network, and being started by two of the original characters from Buffy, The WB basically refused any attempts to have the shows cross over, limiting Buffy to two cameos on Angel and Angel to one cameo on Buffy. And Seth Green got an episode of Angel, but that was only because he'd quit Buffy to go into movies. This was only compounded further when UPN took over showing Buffy after the WB cancelled it prematurely, but kept showing Angel. On top of this the executive opposed Whedon's original concept for the show, which was much darker and more mature. Instead they demanded something lighter and more comedic, essentially "Buffy...again". Eventually Whedon slowly managed to drag the show to the darker, more emotional place he wanted to take it, only for executives to demand he make a bunch of changes that included basically the whole cast being forced to forget the last three seasons in the name of improving ratings. And then after Whedon made the changes and tried to ask for a renewal in light of the ratings improving...they cancelled the show instead, in 2004. This followed a pattern of executices getting in the way of Whedon's shows that began with the WB but is most remembered for...
TAKE MY LOVE, TAKE MY LAND, TAKE ME WHERE I CANNOT STAND
Firefly was a 2002 sci fi historical cowboy social commentary epic space opera character piece following the story of two ex-confederate soldiers running a ship doing odd jobs around their community to survive. Only it neatly side stepped the whole "Betraying their country for slavery" thing by A) having the Independents actually have been independent the whole time, and B) having them fight against a corporately run government that used slave labor in fantastically dangerous terraforming jobs and then would dump "settlers" without supplies on newly "habitable" worlds. As such, its unintended themes of fighting against a late stage capitalist corporate captured government that is trying to legally mandate that people have to funnel money into the pockets of the rich has resonated consistently since the show first premiered. Of course the problem with have such anti corporate themes was..well, the show was on Fox. Of course suggesting the network was fucking the show over because they were upset by the themes and features actually in the show is being charitable. In actuality they started fucking the show over immediately after approving it for production. They comissioned a 2 hour pilot episode, saw it, said "hey we like it, but make a new episode", and so the first episode to premiere was episode 2, the Train Job. Episode 4 saw the show moved to the Friday Night Death Slot Episode 6 got pre-empted by Baseball for an entire month, and episode 7 also got pre empted for 2 weeks afterwards. Episode 8 again got skipped for a week, and episode 9 got preempted for 3 weeks. Episode 10 came out two weeks later, and by this point ratings had actually increased, up to nearly 5 million households per episode, despite the terrible show time and irregular showings. December began episode 10, and then episodes 11, 12, and 13 were skipped entirely, with episode 14 airing on Dec 13th, 2002. At this point the crew were informed either slightly before or during, that their Christmas Party was actually the show's wrap party. The last episode shown was, ironically, the first episode. In lieu of a series or even season finale, the 2 hour Pilot was shown. Despite most of the twists having lost all impact because of the whole "airing after the rest of the show" thing, the episode was massively lauded, featuring awesome moment after awesome moment And then it was over.
YOU CAN'T TAKE THE SKY FROM ME
Almost immediately the fan outcry was massive. Forum wars, flame wars, petitions, the works. People actually started bombarding Fox with written letters for cancelling the show, especially after how much they had been screwing with it. From the above mentioned pre empting and schedule changing, to marketting the show as a Hitchhiker's Guide style sci fi comedy (when they could be bothered to advertise at all, the show's viewers largely came from word of mouth), it was transparent that whatever exec had been in charge of the show had zero idea what to do with it and so had basically resolved to drive it into the ground. The screwing was so bad, on top of happening right as fandom was becoming a massive interconnected and vocal movement, it coined the term The Firefly Effect for when a show is so good, and so obviously going to be screwed, that nobody wants to get invested in it for fear of being hurt again. In fact this pattern would repeated in 2003 with another Mutant Enemy Production (Whedon's production company) starring Nathan Fillion where he plays a skilled former soldier with an ambiguous and dark past and a heart of gold forced into lawlessness by society and the rich, Drive. The fandom attacked Fox for months, demanding they resurrect the show, they air the episodes as reruns, anything to get more Firefly. Eventually Fox capitulated slightly, airing episodes 11, 12, and 13 in July-August of 2003, but even this was not enough. Fans continued their letter writing campaign to get the show uncancelled. Eventually the series was released on DVD, and sales exploded as all the people who had been telling their friends to watch the show while Fox was screwing it over were now buying copies for their friends to watch. Still, no new Firefly content was made
THERE'S NO PLACE I CAN BE, SINCE I FOUND SERENITY
In late 2003 a spec script started popping up on various Buffy and film fan site. The script was ostensibly for a film sequel to Firefly, but no offical word came out as far as any major studios picking it up leaving the fandom to languish and continue hounding and harassing Fox for cancelling the show. Fans began to grow hopeless, despite one of the biggest petitioning campaigns of the day, as nothing came of it. Fox continued green lighting and screwing over shows only to cancel them months later, fans had all bought copoes of the DVDs for all their friends, and it seemed like Firefly was dead. Then in late 2004 various websites started linking to ticket sales for a secret showing in April 2005. Then on September 20th, the original premiere date of the show, Universal announced they had acquired the rights to a Firefly film. It turned out that after the show's cancellation Whedon called in every friend he had in the industry to keep the show going. He was eventually introduced to Mary Parent, a Universal executive. She loved the show and, impressed by the show selling out of DVD pre orders in under 24 hours, greenlit a film. The budget was kept surprisingly low at 39 million, an absurdly low budget considering the film's high CGI demands and US based filming. On top of this, the planned budget savings from being able to reuse the original Serenity set was screwed immediately, as Fox had dismantled the set (built as the actual ship in two halves, an upper and lower floor) forcing them to rebuild it. Further xomplicating matters was that the original blueprints had been destroyed, but it turned out that copies were saved because Nathan Fillion had been photographing everything he could about the TV show's production, including the blueprints. Eventually the show premiered to massive acclaim at the Edinburgh International Film Festival. At the same time, 25 secret screenings for fans released an unfinished cut of the film (mostly missing its completed CG) to huge fan approval as part of a grassroots advertising campaign to build word of mouth and keep the marketting budget low. The film finally saw wide release on September 30th, 2005. Despite being a critical and fan darling, the film barely made back its budget at 45 million. With such low returns the sequel was cancelled. Once again the show was dead in the water. Eventually in 2008, the series was again continued, this time as a set of comics one-shots and shot-run miniseries that continued until 2018, when the license was reaquired and a new monthly series was announced by BOOM! Studios. At the same time 2018, a new series of novels in the Firefly universe was announced.
NO POWER IN THE VERSE CAN STOP ME
Cult Classics are not a new thing in any medium. Evil Dead, This Is Spinal Tap, Donnie Darko, the list is endless really. Cancelled TV shows are not much different, abundent as the day is long. But Firefly is different. Somehow a show that averaged 5 million viewers for just 11 episodes became a massive multimedia franchise. The show was cancelled, the film sequel was cancelled, the comic series was deliberately never monthly, none of the novels got off the ground. Yet somehow the show DVDs sold out, the Film dvds sold out, the comics sold out and got a monthly series, the novels eventually got made. At every setback a fandom that somehow wasn't big enough to justify the financial cost of keeping the series going was devoted enough to keep this silly show alive. They did the impossible, and that makes them mighty. But there's more to it than that. The backlash by the fandom, the letter writing campaign, actually got Fox to not cancel Whedon's next show on their network, Dollhouse, for fear of repeating the Furefly outcry. Because of that it managed to get a second season despite lower viewers than Firefly. On top of that more than a few Disney execs have suggested that Whedon was picked to write and direct Avengers in part because of the rapid fanbase he commands and the quality of Serenity, which juggled 9 characters while still telling a clear story with good characterization. Finally, the show was so beloved it's arguably spurred the careers of most of its cast. Nathan Fillion, Alan Tudyk, and Adam Bladwin have "reprised" their characters to a degree in two separate Halo games, Halo 3 and ODST, where Fillion plays Sergeant N. Reynolds and Eddie Buck (a high ranked sergeant in a squad cut off from the rest of his army in a losing war against an alliance of technologically superior forces bent on annihilating his way of life) respectively, while Tudyk and Baldwin voiced generic marines that regularly say quotes from the show in Halo 3 and then basically play Wash and Jayne in ODST, right on down to Tudyk's character being a pilot. And that's without delving into the careers of the rest of the cast, which have seen them repeatedly reference the show in other roles, appear in other Whedon works, or outright play knocm off versions of their characters. From Destiny to Terminator to Moana, the imdbs of people who usually were at best character actors beforr 2002 have exploded. Hell when Simon's actor appeared for a bit part in Nathan Fillion's new show "The Rookie", the episode was advertised as basically a Firefly reunion. Ultimately the drama surrounding the original run of Firefly and the franchise as a whole has become something of a perfect real world version of the show itself. A franchise/ship that has failed at every turn keeps going because a loyal and devoted crew of people support it through thick and thin.
Edit 4/9/20: The lineup potentially leaked on the official website, bold names denote the names leaked (this may change upon an official release). This is a list of acts that are potentially playing OSLs 2020. I intend to update this list via edit from now until the lineup drop. If you want to add someone to this list just comment below and I will modify the list and credit your handle next to the edit. If you want to find someone in particular quickly I suggest you use ctrl F.
The following have appeared at OSLs once before but have not released new material since their first stint and are therefore less likely to appear in 2019 (To date only Beck and Vance Joy have returned WITHOUT new material, making the following acts much less likely)
Al Green (2010)
Animal Kingdom (2012)
Benevento/Russo Duo (2008)
Big Audio Dynamite (Not currently a band) (2011)
Big Grams (Not currently a band) (2016)
Billy Idol (2015)
Bleachers (GB) (2017)
Bomba Estereo (2017)
Curtis Jones (2015)
D'Angelo (2013) (& the Vanguard (2015))
Dirty Dozen Brass Band (2012)
Dr. Teeth and the Electric Mayhem! (2016)
Duck Sauce (Co) (Playing the Midway May 9th) (2014)
Dum Dum Girls (2014)
Duran Duran (2016)
Empire of the Sun (Playing BottleRock and Sonoma Harvest) (2017)
Extra Golden (2009)
Fleet Foxes (2017)
Future Islands (2017)
Grace Mitchell (2017)
Hall & Oates (Playing Mountain View June 10th) (2013)
Hamilton Leithauser (Playing August Hall in May) (2017) (new album 2020)
Heron Oblivion (2016)
Hiatus Kaiyote (2016)
Jack Garratt (2016) (New album May 29th)
James Vincent McMorrow (2017)
Jurassic 5 (2013)
The Last Shadow Puppets (Not currently a band) (2016)
Lewis Del Mar (2016)
Lionel Richie (Playing Smukfest in Europe OSLs weekend) (2016)
Manu Chao (2008)
The Meters (2011)
The Mighty Underdogs (2008)
Miike Snow (2016)
Mondo Cozmo (2017)
Nate Ruess (2015)
Plump DJs (2013)
Rag'n'Bone Man (2017)
Real Estate (Playing the Fox May 7th) (2017) (New album February 28th)
Royal Blood (2017)
Sam Dew (2017)
The She's (2017)
Sky Ferreira (2015)
Sleigh Bells (2017)
The Soul Rebels (2014)
Steve Winwood (2008)
Stevie Wonder (2012)
Swet Shop Boys (2017)
Thomas Jack (2016)
Thundercat (Fo) (New album April 3rd) (2017)
Yeah Yeah Yeahs (2013)
The following is a list of bands that have played OSLs more than once and the gaps between return performances, considering only five acts have ever played OSLs three times, all acts in this section should be considered less likely than acts that have played OSLs once or never. Note that no act has ever returned quicker than a three year gap, Givers, Fantastic Negrito, and Big Boi were all makeup performances for prior year cancellations. Headliners
Radiohead 08 & 16 (eight year gap)
Metallica 12 & 17 (five year gap) (Headlining Aftershock)
Twenty One Pilots 13 & 19 (First time as undercard, second as headliner, six year gap) (Played last year)
Beck 08, 12, & 18 (Played two years ago)
The Black Keys 08, 11, & 15 (First two appearances as undercard, third as headliner) (Playing the Greek in July)
Chromeo 10, 14, & 18 (Played two years ago)
Dawes 10, 13, & 17
Portugal. The Man (GB) 09, 12 & 18 (Played two years ago)
Toro y Moi 11, 15, & 19 (Played last year)
Three year gap
Anderson .paak & the free nationals 16 & 19 (Played last year, Playing BottleRock this year)
Arctic Monkeys 11 & 14
Bleachers (GB) 14 & 17
Foals (GB) 13 & 16 (Playing Grape Festival in Slovakia, Playing BottleRock)
GRiZ (Ok, Co) 13 & 16
Grouplove (Fi) 11 & 14 (Playing Sonoma Harvest)
Lyrics Born 08 & 11
Mac DeMarco 15 & 18 (Played two years ago, Playing Frost Theater this year, In Europe OSLs weekend playing a festival)
Macklemore & Ryan Lewis 11 & 14
Nicki Bluhm & the Gramblers 11 & 14
Odesza 15 & 18 (Played two years ago)
Phoenix 10 & 13
Pretty Lights 10 & 13
Tame Impala (GB, Bo) 12 & 15 (Playing Chase Center March 13th)
Vance Joy 14 & 17
Warpaint 14 & 17
Zedd 13 & 16 (Playing BottleRock)
Four year gap
Andrew Bird 08 & 12 (Playing Oxbow Riverstage in Napa)
Band of Horses 09 & 13
Caveman 12 & 16
Leon Bridges (Os, Bo) 15 & 19 (Played last year)
Matt and Kim 09 & 13
The National (BKS) 09 & 13
Regina Spektor 08 & 12
RL Grime (Ha, Fi) 15 & 19 (Played last year)
Sean Hayes 08 & 12
Two Gallants 08 & 12
Tycho 14 & 18 (Played two years ago)
The Walkmen 08 & 12
Young the Giant (Bo) 13 & 17 (Playing Sonoma Harvest)
Five year gap
Atmosphere 09 & 14
Bomba Estereo 12 & 17
The Devil Makes Three 10 & 15
Electric Guest 12 & 17
Flume (GB, Bo, Co) 14 & 19 (Played last year)
The Growlers (Bo) 13 & 18 (Played two years ago)
Kacey Musgraves 14 & 19 (Played last year)
Lord Huron 11 & 16 (10th to 12th billed at BottleRock last year)
Major Lazer 11 & 16 (Playing Sziget OSLs weekend)
The Mother Hips 08 & 13 (Playing the Chapel in May)
Nahko and Medicine for the People (Fo) 14 & 19 (Played last year)
Phosphorescent 14 & 19 (Played last year, Playing August Hall this year)
Rebelution 12 & 17 (Playing the Greek September 3rd)
Six year gap
Big Gigantic (Ok) 12 & 18 (Played two years ago, Playing the Greek May 2nd)
Father John Misty 12 & 18 (Played two years ago)
Little Dragon 11 & 17 (Playing The Fox May 8th)
Seven year gap
Ben Harper and the Innocent Criminals 08 & 15
Cold War Kids (Fi) 08 & 15
Empire of the Sun 10 & 17 (Playing BottleRock this year)
Marco Benevento 10 & 17
Santigold 12 & 19 (Played last year)
Eight year gap
Avett Brothers 09 & 17
Cage the Elephant (Ha, Fi, Fo) 09 & 17
Janelle Monae 10 & 18 (Played two years ago, Playing BottleRock this year)
Mavis Staples 11 & 19 (Played last year)
Rogue Wave 08 & 16
Ten year gap
Bon Iver 08 & 18 (Played two years ago)
Broken Social Scene 08 & 18 (Played two years ago)
The following are past lineup drop dates, all lineup drops from 2012 to 2019 have occurred on a Tuesday:
2019.12.05 07:40 bigpavelski35*BOTTLEROCK 2020 HEADLINER PREDICTIONS - UPDATED FOR DECEMBER*
EDITED 12/22/19 --- Justin Timberlake has become a legit candidate now that he is NOT headlining Coachella. Lineup will officially be announced Monday 1/6/20
We are starting to get a somewhat clear picture into what artists/bands could be booked to headline or sub-headline the festival. BottleRock does have a tradition of coming up with a top name that no one sees coming (Maroon 5 in 2017, Bruno Mars in 2018, Imagine Dragons in 2019) so there is always a chance that we get a headliner out of nowhere. But because of tour announcements and other festival lineups coming out, we can make some guesses as to who will be there. All artists that have announced big shows in the area for 2020 have been placed in the OUTS section below. Also keep in mind that BottleRock has only had 1 hip hop headliner in its history (Outkast in 2014, when they headlined virtually every festival), so it's a safe bet to assume rock/pop names at the top again in 2020. BottleRock also has a tradition of having a legacy headliner (every year except 2018, where Bruno Mars took the majority of booking money I'm sure), so it's safe to assume another is coming again in 2020. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HEADLINERS:
Red Hot Chili Peppers - 95% chance - The favorites to headline. Announced for Boston Calling which happens the same weekend. BottleRock has shared a rock headliner with that fest in the past (The Killers/2018). Also announced for Hangout Festival the weekend before which has also shared headliners in the past. The band is always a sellout, so it looks likely at this point that they will take a headliner spot. Add in the fact that John Frusciante has rejoined the group, adding an interesting aspect to a return after 2016, and I would be shocked if they weren't a headliner for 2020.
Dave Matthews Band - 60% chance - They are a band that should have already played BottleRock as they fit the demographic perfectly. Interesting fact - they headlined the Kaaboo Del Mar festival in Southern California for 2019, and BottleRock has shared many, many headliners from that festival. Mumford & Sons, Imagine Dragons, Muse, Red Hot Chili Peppers, No Doubt, Robert Plant, Foo Fighters, Tom Petty, The Killers. Already announced for Innings Festival in Arizona for March so it seems like they could make the festival rounds in 2020 after touring solo nonstop in 2019.
Lady Gaga - 50% chance - A late addition to the potentials list. She has a Las Vegas residency that ends May 16th, right before Bottlerock so she will be in the area. She has headlined Coachella (as a Beyonce replacement but headlined nonetheless). I'm honestly expecting an out of nowhere pop headliner and this makes a ton of sense.
Justin Timberlake - 45% chance - His odds have gone way up now that he is not headlining Coachella. He is just the type of pop name that Bottlerock would book.
Ariana Grande - 40% chance - Headlined some festivals last year. Not as likely as Gaga at this point because she just had 2 arena shows in San Francisco in December. But could still sell tickets if booked.
Zac Brown Band - 20% chance - Announced a tour for 2020 with no California dates. Has all of May open. Headlined a night at the first BottleRock in 2013, and has headlined other festivals that BottleRock has shared headliners with. It's definitely a possibility, although with so many other names out there it's a slighter chance of happening.
The Black Keys - 10% chance - Would be a safe rock act to book. They have also been announced to headline Shaky Knees Festival in May. They have limited buzz heading into 2020 though, so their chances are slimmer at a big festival like Bottlerock.
Chris Stapleton - 10% chance - No California dates for 2020 tour yet. Has all of May open. BottleRock has stayed away from country-type headliners since 2014, however.
****OTHER HEADLINER POSSIBILITIES- <10% chance - The Strokes, Arcade Fire, Kings of Leon, Eminem, John Mayer, Sam Smith, Panic! At The Disco, Katy Perry, Pink. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LEGACY HEADLINERS:
The Who - 95% chance - The fact of the matter is this. BottleRock has had a Legacy/Classic Rock headliner every year except 2018. So it's safe to assume that one is coming for 2020. The promoters like to book a legendary band. The Who is a legendary band that has done some festivals and would appeal to the demographic. They recently announced US tour dates for 2020 that puts them in Las Vegas the week before BottleRock, so they will be in the area. The fact that they scheduled their Las Vegas run right before BottleRock just screams that they were already booked. Also considering the fact that there are not many other options at this point, I would be shocked if they weren't a headliner for 2020.
\***OTHER LEGACY HEADLINER POSSIBILITIES* - <10% chance - The Cure, AC/DC, Billy Joel, Dead & Company, Queen w/Adam Lambert, Fleetwood Mac, Bon Jovi. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SUB-HEADLINERS: Most Likely:
The 1975 - Played a ton of festivals in 2019, yet no bay area one. They have been confirmed by their manager to announce their next round of tour dates for 2020 at the beginning of January, coincidentally the time that BottleRock and other festivals announce their lineups. I'd say it looks promising.
Jimmy Eat World - Current tour dates have them in western Canada the week before Bottlerock with nothing scheduled in the bay. Looks very promising.
White Reaper - ^ On tour with Jimmy Eat World.
Milky Chance - Tour dates have them in California 2 days before BottleRock, and they have no dates lined up in the bay area. Looks very promising.
Foals - No bay area date on upcoming tour. On west coast right around BottleRock, while having a suspicious break from 5/21-5/23. Looks very promising.
Local Natives - ^ On tour with Foals.
Cherry Glazerr - ^^ Also on tour with Foals.
Ice Cube - Will be in the area Memorial Day weekend. He is headlining California Roots festival in Monterey, a festival that has shared names with BottleRock in the past. Makes sense as a 2nd stage headliner.
Cage The Elephant - Looking like a popular festival name for 2020. Haven't played BottleRock in several years.
Avett Brothers - On tour, and it will be 5 years since their last appearance on the BottleRock Stage. Also played the Sonoma Harvest Festival in 2018, so they are a favorite of the promoters. Very likely they are a bigger sub-headliner for 2020.
Brittany Howard - Alabama Shakes frontwoman is hitting festivals in 2020 and makes perfect sense as a mid-day main stage or 2nd stage sub-headliner.
Durand Jones & The Indications - Will be in the area BottleRock weekend, as they are on the California Roots lineup.
Lizzo - Is rumored to be a big name at some 2020 festivals (Bonnaroo, etc.) so she would make sense as a big 2nd stage headliner that BottleRock has been getting (Chainsmokers, Logic, Santana, Pharrell).
Usher - New music due for 2020. He is playing at Pharrell Williams Something in the Water festival in April. Makes a ton of sense as a 2nd stage headliner or main stage sub-headliner.
Portugal. The Man - Haven't played BottleRock in a few years. Always a popular festival band. Already announced for a US festival in May.
They Might Be Giants - No west coast dates announced for their tour yet. Current dates end 5/17 so definitely possible.
Marshmello - Playing Hangout Festival the weekend before.
Rainbow Kitten Surprise - A very popular festival name the last couple of years. Could be a bigger indie type act that they always have. Playing Hangout Festival the weekend before.
Wu-Tang Clan - Would be an awesome choice as a bigger hip hop name for the 2nd stage. They played Kaaboo Del Mar in 2019, so always a chance.
****OTHER SUB-HEADLINER POSSIBILITIES - Khalid, Phoenix, Kali Uchis, Duran Duran, Black Eyed Peas, Boyz II Men, Bastille, Beck, Real Estate, Jason Isbell & The 400 Unit, Joseph, Drive-By Truckers, Angel Olsen, Foster The People, Young The Giant, Jack Johnson, Brandi Carlisle, Sheryl Crow, Greta Van Fleet, Royal Blood, 311, Sublime W/ Rome, Smashing Pumpkins, Tove Lo, Of Monsters And Men, Janelle Monae, Marcus King Band, Andrew Bird, Sharon Van Etten, Bush, Train, ZZ Top, Avril Lavigne. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- \**OUTS**\**
Green Day - 7/21 @ Oracle Park - San Francisco
Weezer - 7/21 @ Oracle Park - San Francisco
Fall Out Boy - 7/21 @ Oracle Park - San Francisco
Miranda Lambert - 2/28 @ SAP Center - San Jose, 2/29 @ Golden 1 Center - Sacramento
Billie Eilish - 4/7 @ Golden 1 Center - Sacramento, 4/8 @ Chase Center - San Francisco
The Eagles - 4/11 + 4/12 @ Chase Center - San Francisco
Metallica - Only festivals in 2020 will be Danny Wimmer Presents festivals
Radiohead - No plans to tour 2020. Thom Yorke has announced solo dates.
Sting - 5/22 + 5/23 @ Las Vegas. San Francisco residency couple months prior
Sturgill Simpson - 5/5 @ San Francisco. Also booked elsewhere Memorial Day Weekend
Tyler Childers - 5/5 @ San Francisco. Also booked elsewhere Memorial Day Weekend
2019.12.04 22:45 igotbannedforh8mailJoan Jett Added to Motley, Poison, and Def Leppard tour.
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